"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
04/18/2020 at 17:39 • Filed to: PClopnik
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"gin-san - shitpost specialist" (gin-san-)
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EDIT: I updated the link, should work. Never really thought of an adapter for the power supply, or maybe I was told and forgot. I think I’ll start with this...
I’ve been talking about it for a while but I think I need to bite the bullet and upgrade my PC. Does this pcpartpicker build make sense?
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I currently run a system with i7-4770k, 12GB RAM, GTX 760 1.5GB, and a 120GB SSD/1TB HDD. I got it in 2013/14 and it’s done well, but is now really showing its age in games like Borderlands 3, Wreckfest, and GTA V (so it’s been struggling for a while now).
I did look into upgrading the GPU only, but I don’t have the right power supply connector - the GPU uses a 6-pin power supply but I think 1660s now require an 8-pin at least. I can’t find an 8-pin connector or a stray 2-pin to make a 6+2 power supply.
So to get a 1660 Super I’d need to upgrade my power supply, and I want to replace my CPU cooler since F@H pushes it close to 100 degrees Celsius. All that adds up to a decent amount of rubles, enough for me to consider building my own from scratch for the first time.Does this build make sense? My goal is max detail 1080p/60fps gaming; the latest game that I play is Borderlands 3, but I’ve stopped playing some games because the poor framerates were seriously impacting the experience (GTA V, Wreckfest, Doom, even Civilization VI starts to struggle mid game).
I would like to save costs where possible; it looks liek I can get RX 580s for pretty cheap; it seems like they are still good GPUs but they’re getting pretty old. Should I spring the extra for a 5600XT or 5700XT? It would be neat to build a full AMD system.
Anyways, your feedback would be appreciated; I’ve noticed a lot more PC talk since F@H started here!
CB
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 17:59 |
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Your list didn’t share.
As well, I can’t really recommend the new AMD GPUs until the drivers get sorted. Mine are mostly stable now, but YMMV.
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 18:02 |
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I know what you mean about that slippery slope when it comes to upgrading. If you have a pre-built system, just doing a PS upgrade may be a problem; my Dell required an adapter, and the HP Elite needed a different, weird adapter that didn’t have a whole lot of configuration support, and that’s probably what fried the motherboard.
Another option, although not pretty, is to run a secondary power supply for the GPU. I have a module that reads when the main PS fires up and turns on the second one. It was about $15, and I already had a small power supply that I’m using to drive the GPU. There’s no easy way to mount such a thing in most computers, so the second PS is resting on the bottom of the case and the side panel is off so that I can run a power cable to it.
facw
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 18:10 |
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Can’t see your list. Honestly, I’d just get a GPU first. As Gran Fury noted you can get adapters (either the molex to 8-pin, or 6-pin to 8-pin) . You might even be able to get away with just plugging in the 6-pin to the 8-pin port (the RX580 I tried was fine with that, but the 5500XT I have now was getting random lock ups, apparently because the six pin was able to pull enough power). Even without them you can get an 80+ Gold 500W power supply, which is probably good enough for <$60. Would still be a massive upgrade over that 760, while upgrading from an i7-4770 is more incremental, especially for gaming where most games have trouble stressing even four cores.
The 8GB RX580s are a pretty good value right now. Going to the 5XXX series you’ll be paying a lot more in terms of performance/$ though performance/watt will be better, so you’ll be looking at a cooler quieter build. Can’t comment on the rest at the moment, since I can’t see it.
themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 18:16 |
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RX580 is a great budget card for modest performance in the newest games. 1080p gaming is fine, but with details turned down a bit to maximize frame rate. The 5700XT is a MUCH better card, especially considering how the 580 is a bit power hungry compared to its performance. The GTX 1070/1070TI/1080/1080TI are still very capable, and can be had for much cheaper than the 16 series or the RTX20 series. They should give you the performance you want while still being budget friendly.
I’d spring for something like this:
That’ll be about 50% better than the 580 for all games and scenarios. So if you do push up the refresh rate or resolution, you can do that. Or if you want blazing fast 1080p gaming for a while longer, you can do that too. I think the 580 is just a bit too long in the tooth for 2020 gaming at high frame rate .
PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 18:18 |
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You can pickup a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter . Max wattage through a 6-pin is rated at 150 watts, which will be plenty for a 1660 super. The CPU is pretty powerful still, maybe consider bumping your RAM t 16GB with two 8GB sticks for dual channel, not sure did your 12GB is an 8GB and a 4GB, which means frba another 8 and dump the 4 or maybe you have three 4GB sticks, which would be less than ideal, since you want matched module sizes for dual channel.
https://www.ebay.com/i/274241832875
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PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
> PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
04/18/2020 at 18:44 |
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Typed the above too fast on my phone, sorry for the typos.
You can pickup a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter. Max wattage through a 6-pin is rated at 150 watts, which will be plenty for a 1660 super. The CPU is pretty powerful still, maybe consider bumping your RAM to 16GB with two 8GB sticks for dual channel, not sure if your 12GB is an 8GB and a 4GB, which means just adding another 8GB and dumping the 4 or maybe you have three 4GB sticks, either are less than ideal, since you want matched module sizes for dual channel.
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gin-san - shitpost specialist
> facw
04/18/2020 at 19:07 |
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I updated the link, it should work now. That said, I think I’ll try GPU only first.
If that goes well, then I’ll probably get a larger CPU cooler to make it quieter since it’s pretty loud while gaming or running F@H.
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gin-san - shitpost specialist
> PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
04/18/2020 at 19:07 |
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Nice. Already on Amazon looking at adapter and 1660 Super options. Thanks!
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gin-san - shitpost specialist
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/18/2020 at 19:08 |
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I think I’ll try going with the adapters + 1660 Super. Gonna pull the trigger tonight, probably.
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gin-san - shitpost specialist
> CB
04/18/2020 at 19:09 |
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I didn’t know that they had driver issues. Now that I know about the adapters from others I’ll just get an adapter for the power supply connector and the 1660 Super which is in the sweet spot of price/performance for me.
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Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 19:15 |
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Cool! Let us know how it works out.
If you do decide to upgrade later you’ll have good parts to start with. My system is a little long in the tooth, but I know that the pile of SSDs, GPU and tons of other parts can move with me to another system.
If you need to go with an additional PS you can use a device like this:
I bought something similar on Newegg for $15.
I was surprised at how little my new video card used. The 1080 has one 6-pin connector, whereas the 670 needs two. Progress...
Nom De Plume
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 19:24 |
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Give it a hard once over or have someone here do so before plugging it in. Getting pins and such lined up on this type of adapter is fun as is. Normally there is something to keep in mind when doing so that may require a few attempts to get right.
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facw
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 19:32 |
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Sounds like a plan. If you get the GPU, you can already upgrade the rest later. Obviously don’ t spend $340 for a 1660 Super (Newegg has one for ~ $235 after rebate), but at $235, I think it’s a pretty good value, probably not worth spending an extra $50 to go up to the 5600XT.
The rest of your list seems fine. I might opt for a I’d go with Fractal Design over Coo ler M aster for the case, and Seasonic over Fractal Design for the PSU, but that’s a matter of preference (I also think an 860W PSU would be huge overkill for this system, 600W would be fine ).
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gin-san - shitpost specialist
> facw
04/18/2020 at 20:00 |
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 1660 Super @ $235 - maybe that’s the newegg US site? Cheapest on newegg.ca is a $340 Asus model of the 16660 Super.
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facw
> gin-san - shitpost specialist
04/18/2020 at 20:02 |
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Ah yes, US prices, didn’t realize you were in the True North.
